Dumb Fighting: Social Security is NOT a ponzi scheme

by lestro

So at the debate the other night Rick Perry repeatedly called Social Security a “ponzi scheme.”

He didn’t say it was like a ponzi scheme or that it resembled a ponzi scheme.  He said it is ponzi scheme.  Twice.

Perry: ”[I]t is a monstrous lie. It is a Ponzi scheme to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years old today, you’re paying into a program that’s going to be there.

and:

Perry: You cannot keep the status quo in place and not call it anything other than a Ponzi scheme. It is. … [T]hat’s provocative language — maybe it’s time to have some provocative language in this country.

It’s a political choice, of course, but what it means is that either he is Dumb or he thinks we are Dumb.  Either way, he is wrong and frankly, saying such a thing is not only a lie, it’s a damn dirty lie and the type of thing that only a world-class Asshole would say with a straight face.  Because Social Security, though flawed, works.  It does what it is supposed to do.

But the Dumb hate that because it ruins their whole “government is the problem” vibe.

Yes, it is a system in which the payments are used to help beneficiaries other than the people paying, giving it a structure that from 30,000 feet looks remarkably similar to a ponzi scheme, but that does not make it a ponzi scheme.  The difference is in things like transparency, the lack of someone stealing the profits, the continuing mechanism of taxes to provide benefits, and most importantly, it is not criminal and it is not a fraud.

But despite the fact that a simple google search will reveal the difference – and a Factcheck piece that also points it out (and uses reality to debunk the idea that Social Security will simply disappear anytime soon), many on the right have tried to seize on this like the “death tax” and have started repeating it on Facebook.

After all, as Reagan said, “facts are stupid things.”

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We must hang together, gentlemen…

by lestro

McCain’s newest Joe the Plumber line is a pile of doo-doo:

“As Joe has reminded us all, America did not become the greatest nation on Earth by giving money to the government to spread the wealth around,” Mr. McCain told supporters, referring to a quotation from Mr. Obama.

Actually, McCain has that backwards. It was exactly that sort of thing that helped lead to the US to become the greatest nation on earth (the reason the US is the greatest nation, by the way, is the philosophical idea that all men are created equal and that governments exist to protect the rights of its people; two very fresh-at-the-time ideas from the Declaration).

But let’s humor Johnny Mac:  So public education, Social Security, those tax breaks for wealthy corporations, the highway system, the military rebuilding New Orleans, that bridge in Minnesota and all that shit – not to mention the $700 billion bailout we just approved –  that’s not giving money to the government and spreading the wealth around?

That’s EXACTLY what it is and what taxes are for, Johnny. The idea that we are stronger together than we are apart is not only the very basis for the United States (remember Franklin? “We must hang together, gentlemen…else, we shall most assuredly hang separately“), but it is also the idea behind CostCo.

Anyone who has ever had to do their own shopping (or bought their own drugs) will tell you that buying in quantity lowers price. That’s how it works.  With everything.

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