Crying wolf?

by lestro

So Pelosi held a press conference yesterday to discuss what she knew about torture and when she knew it.

Turns out she was briefed in 2003.  I think.  It’s tough to really tell.

At a tense press conference, Ms. Pelosi said for the first time that a staff member alerted her in February 2003 that top lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee had been briefed on the use of tough interrogation methods on terror suspects.

Her excuse is somewhere between stupidity and Bush, which, I admit, is not that great a distance.

But she said the fact that she did not speak out at the time due to secrecy rules did not make her complicit in any abuse of detainees. She accused the C.I.A. and Bush administration of lying to Congress about what was actually transpiring with the detainees.

“I am saying that the C.I.A. was misleading the Congress and at the same the administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction,” Ms. Pelosi said.

Link it to other lies. Beautiful. The Bush Admin obviously, 100 percent misled Congress and the American People about WMD and the Iraq-al Qaida link during the run up to the Iraq war.  It only makes sense they’d do the same thing about torture.

Boehner, however, was right on top of her, though he is arguing her point…

Republicans immediately took issue with the speaker’s comments, saying that she was in essence blaming the intelligence professionals for misleading her.

Why is that so tough to believe, considering the nation’s top intelligence official told the president that WMD in Iraq was a “slam dunk” and helped mislead the entire country into war?

That is what happened, Johnny my boy, keep the fuck up.

The Republican-driven furor over what Ms. Pelosi knew about waterboarding and other techniques has put the speaker on the defensive. She repeatedly referred to a carefully prepared statement to respond to multiple questions at the session with reporters.

Ms. Pelosi blamed the dispute on Republicans and others, saying they are trying to shift attention from those who authorized the interrogations and other tactics now found to be questionable.

Republicans have said the speaker was now criticizing the Bush administration for abusing terror suspects when she herself was aware of it at the time.

“This is a diversionary tactic to take the spotlight off of those who conceived, developed and implemented these policies, which all of us long opposed,” Ms. Pelosi said.

I love the “Republican-driven” bit in there because it really shows that if anyone wants it both ways, it is Boehner.

Shit, in 2003 Pelosi wasn’t even the speaker, Denny Hastert was. Shouldn’t they be all over his shit?

Pelosi says she knew of the waterboarding, but not that we were actually doing it.

Ms. Pelosi said that at the sole briefing she attended as the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee in September 2002, the only mention of waterboarding by C.I.A. officials was that while it was deemed to be legal, the technique was not being used.

Generally speaking, I’d believe Pelosi over the Bush Administration on ANYTHING as those motherfuckers (as well as the bootlicking motherfuckers in Congress who climbed over each other to see who could get their tongue deepest in Bush’s asshole), but the Repubs may have her:

A new chart of briefings, prepared by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and cited by the Republicans, appeared to cast doubt on Ms. Pelosi’s assertion that she was never told that waterboarding and other methods had been used, but only that the C.I.A. believed they could legally be used.

The chart said that in a briefing on Sept. 4, 2002 attended by Ms. Pelosi, the interrogation methods that ”had been employed” against a prisoner, Abu Zubaydah, were described.

Then again, the meeting was all moot anyway:

But according to the legal memorandums released last month, Abu Zubaydah had been waterboarded 83 times the month before the briefing, so any objection from Democrats at the Sept. 4 briefing would have come too late.


The fact is that everything the Bush Administration says – even if it is that the sun rises in the east – is immediately considered bullshit until otherwise proven accurate. Those fucks lied about everything they could and purposefully and willfully misled the Congress and the country every chance they got.

Whether or not you believe what they did was justified or useful, there is absolutely, 100 percent, no doubt that they lied about it all.  So everything they say should be considered bullshit until we actually see the wolf’s fangs.

Sorry.  But that’s what happens when you squander your credibility.

For Boehner to now blame a Democrat – who was NOT in power – for not stopping something the president didn’t tell them was happening until after it happened is just fucking stupid.  Especially since the president didn’t listen to a goddamn thing a Democrat said the entire time he was in office (except when Joe Lieberman proposed a Department of Homeland Security…).

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: do they really wonder why they no credibility?

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