Look, the Red Army is converting

by loadz

Okay, I’m confused. Is this a group of Tibetan monks turning in their robes and joining the Red Army? Or Red Army soldiers joining the ranks of Buddhism?

A more cynical person might perhaps suspect that the Chinese are justifying their use of force by planting imposter monk agent provocateurs in Tibetan protest crowds. But really, what government would do that?

I mean, it’s dishonest. And if we can’t trust the Chinese or Canadians, who can we trust.

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4 Responses to Look, the Red Army is converting

  1. 克莱夫 says:

    This is an old photo which has been circulating for a while. You’ll find it, and plenty of comments about where it’s from, on many blogs.

  2. It is an old photo, but it illustrates a current point being made about the conduct of the Chinese military:

    04/03/2008

    “A Tibetan leader defends the choice of non-violence, and claims that Chinese soldiers dressed as monks in order to instigate violence. “We are not terrorists”, he says, expressing the view that “Chinese propaganda” is behind attacks meant to justify accusations against the Tibetans.”

    “Choedup says that “it is not only a matter of a photo, eyewitnesses living in Lhasa have confirmed this for us. Through cell phones given to them by relatives here in India, they have confirmed for us that they have seen Chinese soldiers and security agents changing into monks’ robes, and inciting the crowd”.

    “After the accusations of Wu Heping, we are afraid that Chinese might dress as Tibetans and carry out attacks”.”

    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11921&theme=6&size=A

    “Wu Heping, spokesman of the Chinese public safety ministry, has accused the Tibetans of “organising suicide squads to carry out violent attacks. They say they are not afraid of blood or sacrifice”.

    Choedup replies that “this is an accusation created by Chinese propaganda, entirely baseless and absurd”. “The Tibetan emphasis on non-violence is well known. Tibetan exiles are 100 percent followers of nonviolence”.

    “Chinese propaganda has been following this strategy since the first peaceful march, on March 10 . . . Since then, they have been accusing us of acts of violence that have nothing to do with [our] peaceful protests. Since March 10, they have brazenly described the Tibetans as violent and destructive, and are now speaking to the world of ‘Tibetan terrorism’”. “

  3. 克莱夫 says:

    If you want a definition of non-violence this interview with Dawa Tsering is essential

    http://beachsand.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/an-interview-with-dawa-tsering-by-radio-france-inte

  4. I’m in no position to deny that individuals in China and Tibet may have different ideas on what nonviolence means. Even a previous incarnation of the Dalai Lama had some choice words on the subject:

    “Use peaceful means where they are appropriate, but where they are not appropriate, do not hesitate to resort to more forceful means,” said the previous, now deceased Dalai Lama when Tibet fought the Chinese in the 1930s.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080330/D8VNIG880.html

    Certainly there are reports and video of Tibetans on horseback ‘storming’ a remote town in the Gansu province:

    http://www.rfa.org/english/news/2008/03/18/tibet_protest/

    - but it is impossible to group all Tibetan protesters into a remodeled definition of their traditional nonviolence. One protester cannot speak for all protesters or all Tibetans.

    The current Dalai Lama opposes the use of violence, and the BBC reports that “his message to Tibetans was to refrain from violence. “Violence is against human nature,” he said. “We should not develop anti-Chinese feelings. We must live together side by side.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7302021.stm

    However, since China runs an authoritarian regime, it is possible to look at reports and trends of behavior, from the past and present, and group them under the banner of general Chinese government policy. Which is why it is so difficult to believe anything China itself is reporting about the Tibetan protests.

    most of the links cited above are from the post “Tibet Protest News,” which is the first post in a series of posts that collect news reports about the protests taking place in China and Tibet.

    https://apocalyptickiwi.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/tibet-protest-news-reports-from-china/

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