No Justice, No Peace…

by the squid

I watched the morning news today. There was a segment about the group of girls viscously beating up another girl to make a YouTube video.

http://www.local6.com/2008/0407/15818007.jpgAmongst the interviewers, someone posed the question: Why would you record yourself committing a crime and then post it on the internet for all to see?

A rational thought, if The Squid says so himself.

However, I have to think that in this land of instant celebrity, lack of personal responsibility, lack of respect for laws, as well as unbalanced penalties within the justice system, teens and young adults simply have no thought, or clue, of penalty or prosecution.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:llT1gG06y-LEHM:http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/barbie-bandits_682_458108a.jpgCase in point, two blondes walk into a bank….and rob it of $11,000 and go on a shopping spree. Once caught and convicted, one is sentenced to ten years probation, the other two years in jail and eight years probation.

Last I checked, robbing a bank was a federal offense worthy of some serious jail time.

“Penalties for bank robbery are usually quite high, and rarely inspire leniency from the judge. If you are convicted of bank robbery without using a firearm, the maximum penalty is twenty years in prison. If, however, the bank robber is armed, the maximum penalty is 25 years.”

Both made plea deals, but even the plea deals offered seem awfully light. Where is the penalty? What is the message the justice system is sending? Is the system saying that robbing banks is not that high a crime?

In New York, people are sentenced to decades of prison time for having possession of small amounts of drugs. Lives ruined because of a lack of judgment, a lack of judgment mind you, that many had during their college years (i.e., having small amounts of drugs in their possession).

I will not bring in the race or gender issue into this, because I feel that would really lessen the argument. I do feel that lax penalties will breed more wanton disregard for established laws, especially by young girls in this Paris Hilton American society, where a person can offer nothing to general societal fabric and be celebrated for it. So these girls, these “Barbie Bandits,” will get a second chance.

They’ll serve their time during which, they may make amends for their crime, and I hope they do. However, there are people in jail who have committed lesser crimes who are serving much longer sentences.

And to the girls who beat up the other, and posted it, I hope some sort of penalty can be imposed that gives them some sort of conscience.

- Squid

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10 Responses to No Justice, No Peace…

  1. lestro says:

    it’s not just the pretty ones; Scooter Libby sold out a CIA agent – treason, by many accounts – for political gains and he served less time than either of these two girls or Paris Hilton…

  2. k@th says:

    shite, florida again. it’s not you tube, per say, or any one thing, but rather the culture these teens are wrapped up in. they all think they’re gangstas, and it’s a big look in florida (got grills?).

    my niece (lives in so. fl) got “jumped” a year or two ago. she got friendly with one girl which made another girl envious/pissed, so there were some fights the other girl provoked, but then the girl called in some ‘help’, which led up to my niece coming out of her school’s basketball game one night where a car pulled up to the curb and six high school boys jump out and start beating her up (this girl is 14 at the time). it was broken up quickly, but…makes me long for the old school days when we handled our fights one on one, and guys would be embarassed to hit a girl.

    but then, you know what these teens are listening to?–

    “(I’ll hit that bitch with a bottle)
    I don’t fight I don’t argue I’ll just that bitch with a bottle
    My niggas blaze that weed we gon stomp that bitch
    till she bleed don’t let security through we gon put her
    in ICU cuz I ain’t got nothin to lose”~Miss B

    this is a lifestyle for these kids.

  3. humboldtsquid says:

    I don’t buy the “music as an influence” argument, and I never have. These kids did what they did because they did not think it was wrong, and even if they thought it wrong, they were not afraid of the penalties.

    When I was growing up, I listened to violent music; hard-core rap/rock/industrial/alternative. All the angst ridden music that defined my formative years during the 90s (yes I am dating myself). Music which I felt defined me, and music my parents certainly would not appreciate or understand. In it, there were morbid references to sex, misogyny, murder, violence, and general disdain for society and anyone “not like me.”

    But no matter how angry I was, no matter how much I wanted to bash someone’s head in, I didn’t. I knew it was wrong, and music was simply a vechile to vent my frustration and angst. And it was a great vechicle to use. When people start blaming music for the ills of society, they take the blame off those responsible, “He didn’t know any better, he was listening to Emimem.” That is crap, and lots of it. When my kids are teenagers, and pissed off at me and the world, I hope they can use music as an avenue to vent their frustrations, even if, more likely when, they are not talking to me. Mad music is much better than prison.

    These girls/kids, felt they were doing nothing wrong, and that has nothing to do with music, and everything to do with empathy and conscience.

    I do hope appropriate justice was levyed onto those who assualted your niece.

    -Squid

  4. k@th says:

    agreed, hence my “not any one thing” this is a result of, but the culture at large. i’m hardly the censorship proponent. i will say that my teen years of the 80s (now i’m dating myself) going to hardcore punk shows, et al, did provide the added juice we all appreciated for our imposing image and subsequent actions (not necessarily including myself)–be they defacing public property, petty theft, mosh pit brawl, and for others–some serious drug abuse, etc. the music never made anybody “do” it, neither did the clothes, nor the friends, or anything on TV. it was a time, a place, a lifestyle….we were teenagers, suffering through reagan and feeling like we were going nowhere. but if you wanted to know some of our angst, you could hear it–a piece of it, anyway, in our music. you gotta listen if you wanna know what’s goin’ on, ‘s all i’m sayin’.

    “can you feel it? don’t ignore it. gonna be alright.”~revolution rock, the clash

  5. k@th says:

    and, of course, no justice was levied on those youths. i believe they scattered before security got there. but i thank you for the sentiment. this is hardly an uncommon occurence, by the way. most kids just don’t say anything about it.

    i like my current ‘nerdy’ city for raising my kids–nowhere’s perfect, but some streets are rougher…not sure my florida family understand that. oh well.

  6. now playing in Texas, coming soon to a high school near you:

    “It’s a violent and illegal form of entertainment that’s popped up at a high school here. They’re called “fight clubs” and they could have some students in La Vernia in big trouble.

    La Vernia police say a group of teens would meet in a school bathroom and then start fighting. They got caught because they used the internet to let everybody know what they were doing.

    http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=9f29213a-e3b2-4bac-8e70-1907bb7375ec

  7. k@th says:

    this is going to make for some scheduling conflicts in the bathrooms…
    the bj club will not be pleased.

    and, has the lipstick game hit you tube yet? really, tv is so over.

  8. From the BBC on April 10, 2008:

    “Social networking site MySpace has signed a deal to put its shows on TV.”

    “”MySpace is essentially the world’s largest focus group,” said Travis Katz, head of MySpace’s international arm, announcing the deal at the MipTV-Milia conference in Cannes.

    “You can see what resonates with people and then take that content and blow it out worldwide,” he added.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7339983.stm

    whoops

  9. altho, speaking of consequences:

    (CNN) — Eight Florida teenagers — six of them girls — will be tried as adults and could be sentenced to life in prison for their alleged roles in the videotaped beating of another teen, the state attorney’s office said Thursday.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10/girl.fights/index.html

  10. and about those consequences…

    CLARKSVILLE, Ind. — A group of southern Indiana middle school girls videotaped the beating of a 12-year-old schoolmate and posted it on the Internet in an attack that authorities believe was inspired by a similar one in Florida, police said.

    http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/587687.html

    Police said the girls lured the victim to a parking lot near a warehouse in the town just north of Louisville, Ky. on April 12 and beat her up. The violence was videotaped and later posted on the video-sharing Web site PhotoBucket, Ingle said, but it has since been removed.

    The video begins with one girl arguing with the victim and escalates into a fight during which the 12-year-old is repeatedly hit in the head as other girls watch and laugh, police said.

    Detective Darrell Rayborn said Thursday that police believe the plot was inspired by a similar scheme in which a group of teenage girls in central Florida posted the videotaped beating of a 16-year-old victim online. Parts of that video have been widely seen on TV and Youtube.

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